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The following is Hemley Gonzalez’s hour long interview with a volunteer currently working inside Shanty Dan, a home for mentally challenged women in Kolkata, India. This particular volunteer has asked that her identify remains private as she is still working inside this home. The following is a shocking and terrifying look at one of the medical institutions operated by Mother Teresa’s Missionaries of Charity and another primary example of the rampant negligence that is now far too common with this organization.
January 24th, 2011
Interview by Hemley Gonzalez
Hemley Gonzalez: Please tell us about this home you are volunteering in:
Volunteer: This particular facility holds between 250-300 female patients at any given time; it consists of a large building with two stories, general dormitories packed with beds, a large interior hallway where the patients spend most of their time, bathrooms and a dining room.
HG: What exactly is the specialty of this medical facility?
V: Actually from what I understood initially, it’s not meant to be a medical facility, but rather a home that women with mental health problems go to, and once they get better they return to their homes.
HG: Would you then say it is a mental institution?
V: Yes, it seems like a psychiatry-unit type of place.
HG: When you say psychiatry unit, are there any certified psychiatrists permanently in the building who actually administer treatment? And could you please elaborate on the type of treatment these women receive while in this house?
V: There’s a doctor who comes in once a week, on Tuesdays, none of the volunteers are quite sure on his credentials and or qualifications in psychiatry, psychology or otherwise. In addition to this man’s visit, there is a nun who resides in the home and is in charge of handing pills to all the patients, again, not really sure what the pills are exactly as information is rarely shared with volunteers but the number of pills handed out is staggering.
HG: Do you think these are psychotropic medicines that are being given to ALL patients?
V: Definitely a mood altering drug and it is handed to both the upstairs and downstairs patients.
HG: And this broad regiment of pills for all the patients is prescribed by one doctor who comes in only once a week?
V: Yes, there is no proper diagnosis, but rather some ideas which they come up with while quickly observing the patients. I believe sedation is more of the goal rather than specific diagnosis.
HG: How many nuns are on staff and how many paid workers who operate this house?
V: Six paid workers and three nuns
HG: Do they provide meals for these patients?
V: Yes, breakfast, lunch dinner and tea and biscuits as snacks.
HG: How many volunteers come to the house and for what length of time each day?
V: Usually ½ a dozen or less, we come in the morning about 8:00AM and leave by 12-1PM
HG: What are volunteers asked to do?
V: We do practical chores, check and treat for lice, combing and cutting hair, nails, etc. Although I thought the focus was and should be rehabilitation programs with these patients.
HG: When you talk about lice, are these in patients who are just arriving or some of the ones who have been in the home for a while?
V: Well, it looks like the problem is always present, even when new patients come in without it; we seem to have the lice in our long term patients as well.
HG: Doesn’t it seem odd that a medical facility has an ongoing lice problem?
V: Well, the way I had been presented with information about this house, I thought I was coming to a home and not a medical place, but now after been here for over a month, I see how it completely is a medical facility, as all these women are constantly being given drugs and on Tuesdays there is additional treatment performed by the visiting doctor.
HG: What kind of treatment?
V: It’s actually been one of the most disturbing things I’ve ever seen; it is electroshock treatment, and something that now I’ve noticed is far too common. Many of the women who first come in are given it for six weeks, especially those who are physically unruly, and to the point where they only stop the treatment in some of them until they completely stop talking.
HG: So are you saying that patients who come in and aren’t properly diagnosed or as it seems to be the case, not diagnosed at all are receiving electroshock therapy so they can be subdued?
V: Yes. A lot of the women are suffering from incidents that have happened in the past, not necessarily being physically violent, suffering from internal trauma, perhaps some anger issues, asking for attention, and perhaps a range of other psychological ailments but the problem is that no one assesses the problem, how to treat the problem and actually treat the problem properly. They are just given electroshock therapy!
HG: So they are resorting to deliberately applying electroshock to these women without actually diagnosing their conditions as a way to try and calm them down?
HG: How many instances of these electroshock therapies have you personally witnessed?
V: Usually on Tuesdays is when they do these treatments because that’s the only day the doctor comes, and the first time I witnessed 6 women going into the room.
HG: How different was the behavior prior and after receiving these treatments?
V: There is one patient for example who is very outspoken, likes to sing and engage in conversation with volunteers and other patients, when she came out of the room she was almost in a comma stage, foam coming out her mouth, unresponsive and was wheeled out in a stretcher. A few hours later she became somewhat conscious and was complaining of a massive headache and dizziness as well as being extremely confused. Clearly a horrible feeling for anyone who is submitted to this sort of procedure.
HG: So this goes on Tuesdays. Have you witnessed it take place on more than one week?
V: Yes I’ve seen it a number of weeks since I’ve been here and many women going through the same, but more recently since myself and other volunteers have been very worried and spoken about it they started to do it in hiding, so it’s hard to tell which women are being submitted to it and how many.
HG: How do they hide the treatments now?
V: One of the French volunteers who spoke up a week ago was kicked out by one of the nuns and was asked to never come back. Then I spoke up and went as far as writing a report which the nuns in charge refused to read, basically telling me I didn’t know anything about what was going on, and that I didn’t have any medical experience to question them.
HG: Do any of these nuns themselves have any medical experience and or certification in the psychiatry field?
V: No. The nun in charge used to be a dentist, and that is the extend of the medical knowledge from any of them in this house.
HG: So one volunteer has been kicked out and your concerns and report ignored?
V: The report I gave to the nun, was intended for the nun, and the interaction between her and the doctor who could care less about any of these women. He doesn’t diagnose them and seems to be more interested in just applying the electroshock when he does his weekly visit. If the women are kept sedated so they don’t create additional work for the nuns or the paid workers, then the doctor does his job “well”. There is a nun who is basically in charge of choosing which women are to receive the electroshock, and incidentally also has the power to stop it, so I figure I would research some information about electroshock therapy and show her the devastating effect this type of treatment could have on people who are not candidates for it in hopes of stopping this madness.
A lot of the information available in the web and medical sites all point to the same problematic side effects, such as memory loss, and in applying the findings to the patients directly I started to see how a lot of the cognitive functions were affecting their brains; particularly in women where there was some sort of normalcy days prior to them being placed under this barbaric therapy and after having essentially a mental meltdown.
What really unsettled me was the fact that a lot of these women came into Shanty Dan to get better and leave, but this isn’t happening because after electroshocks some of them have actually made them worse.
HG: Why aren’t the nuns at Shanty Dan hiring full time psychiatrists? For an institution holding nearly 300 patients with a wide range of mental illness, you would have to have several professionals on staff at all times. What’s happening here?
V: When I asked one of the nuns why weren’t any doctors she said the most ridiculous thing: “there are no counselors in India” “You find them and bring them here” “you wouldn’t be able to find any around”
HG: Pardon the expression but that seems to be a crazy thing to say, wouldn’t doctors love the opportunity to accept a high paying job to look after 300 patients?
HG: So there is one nun who has some dentistry background, one doctor who comes in once a week who is supposedly a psychiatrist and prescribes a broad regiment of pills to about three hundred patients and about six medically untrained workers who look after the patients. What is your take of the actual state of this institution?
V: Is a big joke, they don’t care about any of the women there; they just have some workers to look after them and don’t seem to take seriously their conditions, certainly not a home for mentally challenged women where the goal would be to improve their lives. It’s basically a building filled with women with lots of mental issues who are vulnerable and in real need of help.
HG: Where you told or explained prior to volunteering that this was a place where women would be helped and or empowered to get better from certain mental illnesses?
V: Actually we weren’t actually told anything of value at the orientation/registration which was just two minutes long and they basically said the place was a home for mentally challenged women. And of course I assumed this was a place where women got treated properly so they could get on with their lives, I really didn’t think I would encounter what I have witnessed in my time here.
HG: Now that you have been forbidden to participate or witness the electroshock sessions of which you spoke against so strongly, what else are you asked to do with your time there?
V: We try to do some fun activities with the women, playing games, speaking to them kindly (unlike the forcefully and aggressive manner in which the nuns often speak to them).
HG: When you speak of aggressive behavior, is this something that happens frequently by the women and workers who operate the house?
V: Nuns and workers often treat the women angrily and harshly, they show signs of disgust and exhaustion in working there and understandingly so as some of the patients can be a handful, but for a place with three hundred patients and so little workers, it is expected that problems will arise. The patients are often beaten by workers who without any proper medical training often resort to violence in an effort to institute order.
HG: What kind of financial compensation do some of these workers get for their time in this home?
V: I know they are not getting a lot, especially since a lot of them live in slums.
HG: So these are women from the slum who are themselves in great financial need and even less likely to obtain medical training to deal with almost three hundred mentally ill patients?
V: The workers have their own issues, and they even have come to accept the idea that the shock therapy is actually a good thing because they hear it from the doctor and the nuns, in particular nun Benedicta and another who we’ve branded the evil nun, especially after personally seeing her torturing some of the older patients.
HG: One of the nuns tortures the women how?
V: Stupid stuff, emotional abuse for instance, demeaning them, I seen her doing that with some of the older patients, for example, one of the volunteers who comes in and does some of the dressing and cures for patients who need it, an old lady who has a wound in her back and the volunteer needed help moving the patient around to get to the sore and the nun literally yanked her forcefully in front of the other patients, pulled up her dress and in degrading manner laid her down while asking the patient to stop being shy and exposing a private and serious wound to the rest of the floor, zero dignity, while telling her to stop crying in front of the volunteers and remind her that once the volunteers leave, she will still be here to deal with her. How sadistic and frightening is this?
HG: Basically this home becomes a house of horror for a lot of these patients once the volunteers leave?
V: Yes, especially with this nun who we now call the evil nun, she is middle aged, heavy.
HG: Are most of the nuns obese? I seem to find a large number of sedentary women who work for this organization. Why is that?
V: She’s actually quite big, a round face Bengali women, and she’s almost as big as the other two nuns in the house, Benedicta and Maria. The often just sit around and let the volunteers and workers do most of the work, of course, their diets are well proportioned with proteins and items which the patients don’t often get themselves.
Speaking of this “evil” nun, it’s actually evident that she has some mental issues of her own, the way she behaves with other patients, very sadistically, and even the workers agree there is something wrong with her, as they too allude to the fact that she is especially abusive with the patients.
HG: So even workers actually admit that there is something wrong with this particular nun who is also running this house?
V: Yes, all the workers feel very negatively about her and even volunteers no longer listen to her. In one instance she began to stab the feet of the old lady with the infected wound.
HG: Stabbing the patient’s feet?
V: Yes with a pair of scissors.
HG: For what reason?
V: It was very strange; it seemed like a personal thrill for her.
HG: And this is being done by a nun who is clearly disturbed?
V: Yes, clearly no sane person does some of the things this woman does.
HG: What would you say is required for this house to operate as the mental facility you thought you were coming to work in?
V: For starters, a must is a range of doctors, psychiatrists, psychologist and therapists and not these robotic tools such as the electroshock machine and this massive distribution of psychotropic medicines to all patients without diagnosis. There are no personal assessments of the ailments and or diagnosis for a cure and a long term plan to get these women to a somewhat normal life and in many cases to a full integration back to society.
HG: Is the broad application of medicines to all patients without understanding the specific issues of what each of them were brought to this house for in the first place creating more problems?
V: Exactly. And really to get any of these women to a path of improvement, there needs to be some consistent and professional counselling, they come in and many of them could truly be healed with the proper professional and consistent help.
HG: Would you say any of the nuns currently on staff are in any shape to adjust to any of the changes you would like to see for this particular house?
V: No. As it stands right now they refuse to listen to suggestions, apparently they’ve rejected ideas and or programs suggested by many volunteers.
HG: What did they do with your report when you suggested all these possible treatments?
V: The head nun, Benedicta basically laughed in my face and flat out said she “I wouldn’t have time to read any of this documents”
HG: If they are too busy to read reports pertaining the work they are there to do, what exactly do they occupy their time with instead?
V: Looking after the women I suppose and not very efficiently obviously.
HG: As other houses operated by the Missionaries of Charity, does Shanty Dan also have hours of prayers where the nuns are absent from the facilities and neglect the patients?
V: Yes, and they leave the women workers from the slums in charge the same group who are medically untrained and get paid very little money for all the work they do. What’s even more alarming is the fact that the “evil” nun as we have resorted to calling her has begun punishing unruly patients by administering electroshock therapy, regardless of their condition, she has been doing this as a way to subdue them physically which is disturbing and aggravating to say the least.
HG: Electroshock therapy is actually being applied as punishment?
V: Yes, unfortunately.
HG: Did you actually witness some of the electroshock procedures and how many?
V: Yes, I saw a line of women waiting for the application and after seeing the first one being applied, it horrified me. The women waiting in line were not told anything that was about to happen and became apprehensive as some of the other women who had been submitted to the electroshock were being wheeled out of the room in a stretcher while foaming at the mouth.
HG: After you spoke about this barbaric practice, what happened?
V: Almost immediately they banned volunteers from coming near the room where the electroshocks are performed. The glass window that looks into the room was covered with a curtain and on Tuesdays, the day they are performed, volunteers were being asked to perform other tasks away from the area where the treatments take place. What’s even worse now, the nuns are considering to close the doors to volunteers, so the horrors will continue without witnesses who can defend these patients.
HG: Do you believe these nuns are actually performing electroshock therapy themselves without the presence of the doctor who comes in once a week?
V: I wouldn’t put it pass them. And in any case, they line up the women they want to punish and makes the doctor apply the electroshock on Tuesdays. Some of them up to six weeks which basically render them useless for a long time after.
HG: Let’s talk about a bit more about the facility. Are there any outdoor areas or spaces where they could spend some time in the sun and receive natural light and other necessary sensory experiences?
V: There is actually a courtyard with some nice outdoor areas but unfortunately the nuns have closed off the area to the patients. Their main complaint is that some of the women were defecating in the grass and that became too much work for the paid janitors and nuns to handle, so now all the patients are confined to an inner corridor with some windows that look out to the exterior but basically all their time is spent indoors. They really get no natural light anymore and are essentially confined to these interior corridors, bathrooms and dining room.
HG: I think it is fair to say that the entire facility is wrongly and inefficiently staffed, given the fact that there are no permanent doctors, nuns with basically no medical training and workers who are at best cleaning and janitor women, wouldn’t you agree?
V: It would most certainly help to bring in professionals to asses all the cases of the women currently being kept in the house. While volunteers come in and try to help, their duties are usually limited to washing clothes, dishes and some grooming of the patients.
HG: Are there any washers and dryers in the house?
V: No. They’ve refused to accept them.
HG Do you think this house will change and or improve?
V: Not really. After several weeks of suggesting changes, researching, handing over helpful documents and speaking to the nuns and workers, I’ve come to realize they are not interested in altering their culture of abuse and neglect.
HG: One would also have to assume that the workers are trying to protect their income, however little it is and in essence are conspirators to the medical negligence perpetrated by these nuns on a daily basis.
V: Yes, they do pretty much whatever the nuns say including systematic beating of the patients at the request of the nuns themselves.
HG: It is my understanding that nuns within this organization are shuffled around the different houses they operate around the world, one of the reasons being is the mounting complaints and as a way to diffuse the public’s outrage or concern they continue to change some of them in charge and dispatch them to different places. How long before they resort to their malevolent practices in their new positions?
V: Well, we have already noticed some abusive behaviour by nun Benedicta who is recently new in Shanty Dan; we’ve seen her hitting patients sometimes and using forceful language, almost as if these patients are wild animals. I am afraid the behavior is chronic and symptomatic of these nuns. The same goes for the workers.
HG: Have there been any deaths during your time there?
V: Yes. Three. One was a new lady that had arrived; she was quite small and fragile. She seemed fine and had some difficulty walking, but other than that she was cognitive and responsive. After I returned two days later I found that she had passed and when I asked for the cause of death, I was told she had a stroke but there was a lot of ambiguity on the actual answer, especially when another volunteer felt that the medicine she had been given was the wrong kind and thus caused her to have a fatal and allergic reaction.
Another was a 40 something year old patient, her name Maduri, I remember her clearly because she was the very first patient I saw chained to the bed and now I see this more and more often. She was very active and always wanted to leave but one day I came to work and she also died.
And another patient who was ill was brought here which I thought was very strange, one who should have certainly been brought to a hospital.
HG: How many patients are chained to their beds?
V: At the moment from what I can tell probably half a dozen, perhaps more. And especially those who don’t want to remain in the facility.
HG: So patients who don’t want to stay are not allowed to leave?
HG: Are there medical histories for each patient?
V: No. There are just these cards where they sometimes make notes about the medicines they give to the women, but nothing in detail and certainly no diagnosis; another thing I noticed is a slew of women who arrive from jail.
HG: From jail? Please explain:
V: There seems to be some sort of agreement between the Missionaries of Charity and some of the women jails where they bring some of the inmates who are being released but their families don’t want them home, so they end up here. Many if not all of them have absolutely no mental disabilities, so I find this whole arrangement quite strange.
HG: So perhaps for some sort of rehabilitation program? Except this is a mental institution which doesn’t even seem to rehabilitate their own mentally challenged patients in the first place!
V: Yes, very strange. There are no televisions or rehabilitation programs or visual or physical activities, they just sit there all day, almost rotting away. Also, all of the women who arrive from jail join the distribution of pills and almost immediately become subdued. And most of the women change their behaviour completely and overnight, as if becoming zombies. There is one in particular which is very troubling to me, it is a pregnant patient who is constantly given medicines, and her mood changes drastically.
HG: These type of pills are being administered to a woman who is pregnant?
V: Yes, even injections that basically knock her unconscious.
HG: Do we know if the one doctor who visits this home once a week has actually researched that the medicines he is administering to this pregnant woman won’t hurt the fetus?
HG: You also mentioned another patient who had a baby recently and the baby was taken to an orphanage hours away from this facility, something quite strange considering the fact that the Missionaries of Charity operate another orphanage literally next door to the same place where the new mother is. Why would they do this?
V: When I asked the same question to the nun in charge her answered was: “God bless you and your compassion” and she laughed and walked off.
HG: Why aren’t other volunteers talking about the same things you have witnessed?
V: I just don’t think they care enough. They come here for a few days and don’t want to raise any issues. A lot of them are nice folks but they just feel helpless at the time or rely on the fact that someone else like you or me would speak up about it. Or worse, they think these nuns are actually doing a good job.
HG: I understand that a first rate health care facility, one that is typically found in develop countries such as the US, Britain, ect, is not something that is feasible or realistically possible to construct and execute in places like Kolkata, but for an organization that receives millions and millions of dollars in donations each year, is this the best they can do?
V: No, not at all, at best they are providing below minimum care. For an organization with European influence and the massive financial support they receive, this is shameful to say the least. There needs to be immediate and drastic changes. The electroshock therapy is running a lot of these women’s lives, they can never go back out into society and join a cycle of normalcy, their memories and even simple functions have been sucked out of them, almost if not all patients are treated like animals in a zoo.
HG: What happens when you leave?
V: Well, this is why I am talking about it. People like you who continue to raise awareness about these issues are a major source of hope for change and this why I couldn’t remain quiet any longer.
This morning’s Radio Four broadcast (as usual) it’s saccharine soaked insipid section, Thought For The Day, at 7:45 am . What was unusual was the fact that the 2 minute 46 second slot had been recorded in Rome by the Pope. The broadcast is the first time any pope has written material specifically for a radio or television audience. To me, it smacks of extreme desperation on the Vatican’s part to restore trust (undeserved in the first place) in the church. Aside from the fact that there are rarely ANY humanist, atheist or agnostic speakers for this programme, coupled with their extremely similar program, Prayer For The Day (on at the earlier time of 05:43 am), this is not a post about the BBC’s broadcasting habits or policy. This post is more about the utter garbage spouted in the news and other media by the religiously inclined on an almost daily basis.
“And it was not a political liberation that he brought, achieved through military means: rather, Christ destroyed death for ever and restored life by means of his shameful death on the cross.”
In addition, he also gave comfort and consolation for “families, children, the sick and those going through hardship, especially the elderly and those approaching the end of their days”.
This quote kind of says it all really. Death was not destroyed: it still happens. There is no getting away from this exhibition of the childish fear of the unknown. If the believer is so arrogant to believe that not only is he capable of surviving the death of his brain (not that he uses it) and nervous system, but deserves it, then it is up to them but wishing that belief to be true does not make it true. The same way that the existence of prayer does not make it efficacious. If the ancient story about the execution of an outcast brings people comfort (can’t see how that dreadful message could comfort anyone) then it is entirely accidental. Christianity, Catholicism in particular, has certainly NOT brought political liberation. Even now, subscribers attempt to impose their chosen set of dogma and doctrines on everybody else. This insistence for unquestioned ‘respect’ is not exclusive to Christianity by any means but at this time of year the whining reaches new levels of acerbic shrillness. It’s almost like trying to reason with an over-tired toddler (but at least you can send the tot to bed).
The liberation we enjoy in the UK came through conscious change in public opinion about what is considered acceptable behaviour and attitude, not to mention hard-fought for changes in the law with regard to even non-Protestants holding positions in public office, let alone non-believers. It has come through brave people standing up for what they believe and holding on to their integrity even though it even cost them their liberty. Christianity has only ever offered fear of punishment in return for not taking vicarious offer of ethereal rewards after a lifetime of willing subservience to the will of the church. It has enslaved believers and murdered ‘heretics’. It has spilled unmeasured, needless blood (as it still does) in its quest to ‘save the heathen races’ and please their god. It has enabled the infliction of needless suffering against thousands. And it is also no coincidence that what ‘their God wants’ nearly always seems to coincide with whatever act the clergy or bewildered masses wanted to do anyway. The Christian God seems to have given its stamp of approval on nearly every atrocity or poisonous act ever committed in the name of Christianity. When confronted with these facts, (I have lost count of the times I have been told this) the stock answer of ‘they weren’t really Christians‘ is trotted out without either hesitation or thought.
“As we ponder this great mystery in our hearts this Christmas,”
It’s not a great mystery, it DIDN’T HAPPEN, and I certainly do not ‘ponder’ it. All the story does is weakly advocate the human sacrifice of an entirely unrelated individual in order for us to feel that our mistakes and misdeeds can be undone in an instant and by somebody else. They can’t be and it is infantile in the extreme to believe that they can.
“I’ve got no problem with the message itself, but I think it’s an extraordinarily bad choice for the BBC and I think it’s actually a slap in the face for these hundreds of thousands of child abuse victims.”
“What we’ve had with the papal visit and with Thought for the Day is the pope pontificating his views and being totally unaccountable for things that the church has been responsible for.”
Keith Porteous Wood, of the National Secular Society to The Guardian
I agree. The BBC is funded by all UK licence payers (A colour TV Licence costs £145.50 per year and is compulsory.) and should therefore be representative of all of the UK population. Pandering to the vanity of the ever-present and complaining (women’s’ reproductive freedom, the secular freedom for other faiths or those of no faith, equal rights for gay people etc) Catholics without calling the church to account for itself is not constructive. The Catholic church should consider itself very much in disgrace with the rest of the world. They have proven they are out of touch with modern morality and the clergy (the higher-ups especially) do not consider themselves subject to ‘earthly’ laws and standards of behaviour or ethics. The Pope was merely acting upon sufferance when he put his crocodile-tears act on to urge the church to take responsibility for the culture of abuse which has been rampant in the Roman Church (for centuries) but in the same speech he went on to shift the blame on to the ‘permissiveness’ of the 1970s and the ‘normalising’ of child abuse and porn which merely demonstrates my point that they are both backward and dangerously out of touch with reality. There was no hint of sincerity in the pope’s message, just a cringe-worthy display of adherence to idiotic story telling.
“The pope’s message was anodyne and didn’t engage with any contemporary issues – not really a thought for the day at all, but more a bit of good PR for him courtesy of the licence fee payer.
It is a shame that humanists in Britain continue to be denied the right to reply in such circumstances, with the ban on non-religious contributors to the programme.”
Andrew Copson, chief executive of the British Humanist Association
Those said to have been instrumental in persuading the Vatican to take part are the veteran Rome correspondent David Willey, BBC world news editor Jon Williams and the corporation’s head of radio, religion and ethics, Christine Morgan. Mark Thompson, BBC director general and a devout Roman Catholic, has also been involved in the negotiations
Why sell it? WHY publish it!? WHY WRITE IT AT ALL!?
Amazon.com Inc. is selling a self-published guide that offers advice to pedophiles, and that has generated outrage on the Internet and threats to boycott the retailer. The reason? Because refusal to list the item is ‘censorship’. Yes, You read that right. They are protecting the advocacy of pedophilia.
“They’re accusing me of wanting to hurt children. They’re accusing me of encouraging pedophilia and all these other things. But that’s not why I wrote the book,” the 47-year-old from Pueblo, Colo., said.
The book, which went on sale Oct. 28 and costs $4.79 to download, has sparked a wave of criticism online, with customers taking to Twitter and elsewhere to ask Amazon to remove the book from its online store and others calling for a total boycott of the company until it does.
I am seriously considering the permanent closure of my account and a-stores if Amazon fail to do the decent thing and remove this trash from its list. There is no excuse for the abuse of children sexual or otherwise. This is WHY we have the age of consent. No normal adult should ever feel sexual attraction toward a child, and should certainly not act upon it. With all the scandal we have seen within the catholic church covering for paedophiles, the last thing we should be enabling is anyone profiteering from a crime. It is bad enough that lawyers have made millions from the suffering of thousands, but this is beyond what any rational individual should tolerate. I have been busily sending out texts and emails to friends and family, alerting them to Amazon’s disgraceful business conduct, and asking them not to buy from Amazon (especially from any of our wish-lists) until the product has gone for good. Of course I respect, people’s right of purchasing choice but the point of the boycott is not to stifle our individual choices. It is to raise awareness and provide people with the facts so that they are ABLE to make ethical purchasing choices.
“Amazon believes it is censorship not to sell certain books simply because we or others believe their message is objectionable. Amazon does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts, however, we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions,” the company said.
As a mother I am sickened by the profligate way they have shamelessly marketed this manual of child sex abuse. I, along with all reasonable adults, have a social duty to protect all children from people like the author. This duty includes the refusal to patronise establishments, or buy from companies which invest in, or sell, material such as this. Amazon issues guidelines banning certain materials, including those deemed offensive. However, the company doesn’t elaborate on what constitutes offensive content, saying simply that it is “probably what you would expect.” Amazon also doesn’t promise to remove or protect any one category of books.
“Christopher Finan, president of the American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression. He said that Amazon has the right under the First Amendment to sell any book that is not child pornography or legally obscene. Finan said Greaves’ book doesn’t amount to either because it does not include illustrations.”
Pardon? Illustrations, is all it takes to qualify as obscene? I will, for now, assume that Mr Finan does NOT have children of his own to worry about. Regardless of whether or not you do have children, it does not take a rocket scientist to read a description. It is bad enough that there are middle-aged men who find the idea of marrying children under the age of 10, based on the words of 1500 year old hate and misogyny filled drivel (Yes, the Qur’an), perfectly acceptable, but we certainly should not be producing or condoning a western version of our own.
“We actually think this is the right attitude. This book is hardly the only horrifying thing Amazon offers — there are plenty of books written by Holocaust deniers and other hate mongers available on the Kindle or in physical form. We see no reason for Amazon to have an editorial policy.”
So Business Insider support their decision. Holocaust denial might be disgusting as well as deluded, considering the vast body of evidence and eye-witness accounts, but we know they are wrong and THEY are not supporting the sexual abuse of minors who are not prepared to deal with sexual predators. Philip R. Greaves II, argues that pedophiles are misunderstood, as the word literally means to love a child. The author insists that it is only a crime to act on sexual impulses toward children, and offers advice that purportedly allows pedophiles to abide by the law. I love my son, more than life itself, but that does not mean I have inappropriate inclinations toward him. Pedophilia (or paedophilia) is a psychological disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a sexual preference for prepubescent children (World Health Organization, Section F65.4:). What Mr Greaves is describing is something else altogether and anyone who has these ‘impulses’ should be avoiding ANY and ALL contact with children and seeking immediate psychiatric help. There is no excuse to peddle a book, moralising and rationalising this despicable act.
In the days since its launch, he said, he had sold just one copy.
“It hasn’t increased sales; it just has a lot of negative responses coming in,” he said.
This isn’t the first time Amazon has sold material that promotes illegal activity. It is currently accepting pre-orders for the hardcover version of “I Am the Market: How to Smuggle Cocaine by the Ton, in Five Easy Lessons” by Luca Rastello. In 2002, the United States Justice Foundation, a conservative group, threatened to sue Amazon for selling “Understanding Loved Boys and Boylovers.” That title is still available through Amazon. In 2009, Amazon stopped selling “RapeLay,” a first-person video game in which the protagonist stalks and then rapes a mother and her daughters, after it was widely condemned in the media and by various interest groups. When ‘free-speech’ is used to protect people and works such as these, it ceases being free-speech and becomes a joke, especially when those who decry the writer’s and seller’s actions as morally repugnant are merely dismissed as hysterical and reactionary.
A full transcript of the Pope’s opening speech is below my own post’s sources. I have not yet found a video but I am looking
I have to say that I am utterly sickened by his lies and absolute failure to publicly apologise in person for or even acknowledge the hypocrisy within the Catholic church. It is bad enough that he is here at all, let alone at the expense of the British tax payer. As I watch this sham of pomp and splendour, I can feel the bile rising in my throat. There is no balance and I WILL be complaining to the BBC that this broadcasting corporation, which is also funded by the taxpayer, is showing only the positive comments on the on the live broadcast. I tried several times to get my objection noted but I went unheard. Obviously they do not want, too readily, to remind the pope and his team of brainwashed sycophants that he is about as welcome, to many of us in this country, as a re-emergence of the black death. The BBC’s coverage is a shamefully entirely fictitious version of public opinion. So add to my feeling of nauseous disgust, a sense of abject disappointment in the BBC.
We are NOT a Catholic nation. We are not even a Christian Nation. Since Henry VIII broke from Rome nearly 500 years ago we have slowly been working our way out from under the tyranny of this backward-thinking and morally-retarded set of myths and dogma. Since then they have been itching to get back in. A religious leader is NOT entitled to the pageantry that goes with a visit by a REAL and RIGHTFUL head of state. A head of state is not entitled to publicly make moral judgements on the state of the nation’s spirituality or proselytise about their own personal delusions. One of his aides was also pulled out of the visit after claiming that landing at Heathrow was like landing in a 3rd world country. If he had been one of my employees I would have suspended him.
I had been watching for over an hour before they attempted to defend the Vatican for their ‘atrocious PR’ and the reports of child abuse by priests. Right at the end and it got merely two minutes of coverage! The BBC online report did give us this little snippet.
“During his flight from Rome, in response to a question from the BBC, the Pope said the scandal surrounding the abuse of children by Catholic priests had come as a great personal shock to him.
He said he wanted to offer the victims “material, psychological and spiritual” help and to protect other children from dangerous priests in the future.
Asked about the protests, the Pope told journalists said the UK had a “great history of anti-Catholicism”, but also “a great history of tolerance”.
So telling in so many ways.
- Claiming it was a shock as if he had not known about it or involved with hiding the perpetrators. It was probably more of a shock that people were not only complaining but refusing to allow these cases to remain and ‘internal matter. (DISHONESTY)
- Refusal to cooperate with the appropriate authorities and allow them to investigate fully and precisely. This doesn’t promise any real recompense to those who have been abused or even admit any complicit acts in protecting those priests for ‘the good of ROME’. When will they learn that they are just men and they are NOT above the law? (OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE)
- If he’s referring to our history, I think he means either our break with Rome or our civil war in the 17th century which resulted in an end to our own despotic puritanical republic under Cromwell and the reformation of our monarchy with Charles II. Our last Catholic monarch (James II) was deposed, because he was also a despot, and replaced by William and Mary in order to appease both the Catholic and the Protestant population. This was the last time a Catholic ever sat on the British throne and it was decreed at the time that it would never happen again. We are not anti-catholic, we are anti-tyranny and it’s about time Rome and it’s pontificators learned the bloody difference. (OUTRIGHT IGNORANCE.)
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11313672 (For comment feed)
Thank you for your gracious invitation to make an official visit to the United Kingdom and for your warm words of greeting on behalf of the British people. In thanking Your Majesty, allow me to extend my own greetings to all the people of the United Kingdom and to hold out a hand of friendship to each one.
It is a great pleasure for me to start my journey by saluting the members of the Royal Family, thanking in particular His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh for his kind welcome to me at Edinburgh Airport. I express my gratitude to Your Majesty’s present and previous Governments and to all those who worked with them to make this occasion possible, including Lord Patten and former Secretary of State Murphy. I would also like to acknowledge with deep appreciation the work of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on the Holy See, which has contributed greatly to strengthening the friendly relations existing between the Holy See and the United Kingdom.
As I begin my visit to the United Kingdom in Scotland’s historic capital city, I greet in a special way First Minister Salmond and the representatives of the Scottish Parliament. Just like the Welsh and Northern Ireland Assemblies, may the Scottish Parliament grow to be an expression of the fine traditions and distinct culture of the Scots and strive to serve their best interests in a spirit of solidarity and concern for the common good.
The name of Holyroodhouse, Your Majesty’s official residence in Scotland, recalls the “Holy Cross” and points to the deep Christian roots that are still present in every layer of British life. The monarchs of England and Scotland have been Christians from very early times and include outstanding saints like Edward the Confessor and Margaret of Scotland. As you know, many of them consciously exercised their sovereign duty in the light of the Gospel, and in this way shaped the nation for good at the deepest level. As a result, the Christian message has been an integral part of the language, thought and culture of the peoples of these islands for more than a thousand years. Your forefathers’ respect for truth and justice, for mercy and charity come to you from a faith that remains a mighty force for good in your kingdom, to the great benefit of Christians and non-Christians alike.
We find many examples of this force for good throughout Britain’s long history. Even in comparatively recent times, due to figures like William Wilberforce and David Livingstone, Britain intervened directly to stop the international slave trade. Inspired by faith, women like Florence Nightingale served the poor and the sick and set new standards in healthcare that were subsequently copied everywhere. John Henry Newman, whose beatification I will celebrate shortly, was one of many British Christians of his age whose goodness, eloquence and action were a credit to their countrymen and women. These, and many people like them, were inspired by a deep faith born and nurtured in these islands.
Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were thought unfit to live. I also recall the regime’s attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives. As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his destiny” (Caritas in Veritate, 29).
Sixty-five years ago, Britain played an essential role in forging the post-war international consensus which favoured the establishment of the United Nations and ushered in a hitherto unknown period of peace and prosperity in Europe. In more recent years, the international community has followed closely events in Northern Ireland which have led to the signing of the Good Friday Agreement and the devolution of powers to the Northern Ireland Assembly. Your Majesty’s Government and the Government of Ireland, together with the political, religious and civil leaders of Northern Ireland, have helped give birth to a peaceful resolution of the conflict there. I encourage everyone involved to continue to walk courageously together on the path marked out for them towards a just and lasting peace.
Looking abroad, the United Kingdom remains a key figure politically and economically on the international stage. Your Government and people are the shapers of ideas that still have an impact far beyond the British Isles. This places upon them a particular duty to act wisely for the common good. Similarly, because their opinions reach such a wide audience, the British media have a graver responsibility than most and a greater opportunity to promote the peace of nations, the integral development of peoples and the spread of authentic human rights. May all Britons continue to live by the values of honesty, respect and fair-mindedness that have won them the esteem and admiration of many.
Today, the United Kingdom strives to be a modern and multicultural society. In this challenging enterprise, may it always maintain its respect for those traditional values and cultural expressions that more aggressive forms of secularism no longer value or even tolerate. Let it not obscure the Christian foundation that underpins its freedoms; and may that patrimony, which has always served the nation well, constantly inform the example your Government and people set before the two billion members of the Commonwealth and the great family of English-speaking nations throughout the world.
May God bless Your Majesty and all the people of your realm. Thank you.