Let me get this clear (and hopefully through some rather thick skulls). It’s not due to ‘people like me’, that women’s rape cases are thrown out, its due to the mass hysteria produced by people like you who managed to turn a very minor and badly timed come-on into a serious infringement of personal rights.
I myself refuse to be treated or thought of as a permanently potential victim because I happen to be female. It’s patronising and very irritating. I have a right to my body as does everybody else but I have no right to expect others to pussy-foot around me desperate to not ‘make me uncomfortable’ but nor does anyone else. Don’t make the hysteria my fault when all I an others have done is pointed out how stupidly irrelevant it all really is. I have never suggested that women ever deserve to be raped or assaulted. As far as I am concerned ‘No’ means ‘no’ and no qualification or reason is ever needed or should ever be expected and this applies to partners and husbands too. Miss Watson had every right to feel uncomfortable, it’s not for us to say what she or anyone should or should not be feeling but nor are we responsible for the ‘feelings’ of others. It would in no way have been her fault if she had been assaulted. So just what happened in the lift? SHE said NO, he didn’t push it. He didn’t touch her or harm her in any way. That should have been the end of it. Clear? Good.
You have ALL refused to think critically about the whole situation and instead decided to lambaste everyone who doesn’t instantly agree with you and Plait on every point and I’m truly embarrassed for you.
There are certain rules and expectations of common courtesy to be held in account, like offering one’s seat on a train or bus to someone less able to stand than you, holding doors for the next person or just offering to help someone you can see is struggling. This is not because they are male, female (or bug-eyed alien) but because it is an item of decent things to do on a very long and complicated list of little things which help make the world a nicer place to live in. Adding relative and arbitrary items and terms to that list like ‘don’t be creepy‘ is not in the least bit helpful to the real cases of sexual assault and nor is it fair to apply it only to men. It makes it harder, not easier, to see that justice is done when the slightest word at the wrong time and wrong place by someone with zero grip on appropriate social interaction can blow up into this.
Yes, people are awkward. That is not a crime (not everyone is the same and it is just wrong-headed to be angry that someone doesn’t instantly just agree with you or see things exactly as you do), and rather than laugh at them or so fiercely condemn them for making what is for us such an obvious error (and tit of themselves, because that’s all EG really did wrong), how about helping them to not make the same mistake again. You do this by having the decency and good manners to state your objection to their face calmly and at the time. What you do not do is increase EGs humiliation in a couched reference on a YouTube video so that everyone knows about it and those at the conference are left speculating about who it might have been because he was possibly already kicking himself over it.
To deliberately embarrass EG like that was just a cruel and nasty thing to do. If we use your logic, commentators, that ‘mere moment’ in the video has infringed HIS rights ‘not to be made to feel uncomfortable‘ unless that’s a one way gate which it seems to be at the moment. One might say that they were ‘even‘ in this case but oh NO, its managed to become not only a man-bashing exercise but a mission to ‘condemn all the women who don’t see it automatically our way‘ without being allowed to think about it for ourselves let alone openly disagree with you. (When did the feminist-fundies emerge?) Can you not see how you all resemble the same religious fundies we come up against on a daily basis? The same ones who refuse to acknowledge that any but their personal views are valid and that all the worlds problems are all down to we morally repugnant individuals who dare to disagree openly with them. This is another reason that I’m embarrassed for you as a group. Last time I checked it was okay for us to disagree with each other but it seems along with the Atheists who condemn other atheists for speaking out to deal with, we now have sceptics who won’t tolerate others being sceptical of them.
That it can cause this amount of hysterical posturing from the PC crowd is also embarrassing (buttock-clenchingly so) because it’s making the whole critical-thinking movement look like a bunch of hypocrites.
Making this as bad as actual assault does nothing to help women. It hinders us, more importantly it hinders the women who are trying to hold their assailant to account and NOT be thought of as one of those ‘hysterical feminists‘ because what this does is it puts people like you directly in the minds of the people who make those decisions: important decisions. If there is the smallest scrap of doubt or suspicion that the victim blew anything out of proportion, their assailant will walk free rather than risk sending an innocent man to prison. That is also one of the joys of living in a free western society: you cannot be thrown in prison without actual and certain proof that you did anything wrong.
As we have seen, what someone considers ‘creepy’ varies vastly from person to person. Define ‘creepy’. This is one of the costs of living in a FREE WESTERN SOCIETY. It means that other people are allowed different views and to express them. (I shouldn’t have to explain that to you people.) To attempt to make all terms mean exactly the same to all people regardless of whether it’s a social construct or legislated law would be to put an end to that freedom. Would any of the naysayers (who really have not listened to a word have had to say before now) ever be happy to be forced to apply that restriction to their own lives? I will quote myself here from the last paragraph of my original post and this time I hope people will try to listen and take it in.
“We as women no more have the right ‘not to be made uncomfortable‘ than the followers of the religions we criticise have the right ‘not to be offended’.”